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Already
from the first record "Queen Of The Reich" Queensrÿche proved that
they had something good going on. After it was released on a small label
it quickly started to sell in such quantities that a major label (EMI
in Europe) picked them up and released it. But it wasn't until after the
release of "Operation: Mindcrime" that the band really took off. This
album has become trend setting for a whole generation. How many bands
have you not heard that have tried to recreate what Queensrÿche did
with this album. "Empire" that followed had a ballad that came to be a
huge hit all over the world. "Silent Lucidity" was frequently played on
MTV and the album the song came from also became trend setting in it's
own way. With albums like "Promised Land", "Hear In The Now Frontier"
and the latest studio album "Q2K" the critics have been harsher. Some
feel that the band has passed its zenith. That the band has chosen a simpler
way of writing songs on "Q2K" does not mean that they've gone bad. With
a new label, Sanctuary, backing Queensrÿche they released a live
double album that summarises the first 20 years as a band. It was not
without some trembling hands I picked up the phone when Geoff Tate called
to talk about the new live album and everything else I could think of
asking him.
-Anders
Ekdahl
Your new Live CD is being released
by Sanctuary. Is the crisis you hear about at the major labels really that
bad that you have to look to an independent label to release records?
- I don't think it's a crisis.
I don't think that they're getting rid of harder bands, harder is kind
of relative. We chose to leave Atlantic for Sanctuary because we have a
better deal with Sanctuary. It's a happier situation. I don't see it the
same way.
Is your new live album to
be seen as a summary of 20 years of Queensrÿche as a band or
is there any other reason
behind releasing it?
- It's just a live record.
You can see whatever way you like.
From what I've heard you
had people coming in from all over the world to witness the recording of
the live album. Was that by invitation or did they just show up?
- We have quite a fan net work
that goes around the world and whenever we get ready to do any sort of
event we put the word out that we're doing it so that people can travel
to wherever they want. As usual we sent the word out that we were doing
the shows and people came.
How does it feel that you
have people travelling from all over the world to see you record a live
album and DVD?
- It feels great. It's wonderful.
We've been touring for a lot of years and I think we're a very good live
band and I think people appreciate that and want to be a part of the making
of a live record. It's actually quite fun. A lot of people we've developed
a relationship with over the years so it's nice to see them out in the
audience.
- There's some other stuff
involved too (with the DVD). I don't exactly know all what it is. I believe
that it's going be stuff on the band.
You've divided the album
into four suites. Is that how you look upon the life of Queensrÿche,
in four life cycles?
- No I don't think so. It was
just the running order of the songs. People are kind of into putting things
in little boxes and calling them things.
You came under at lot of
criticism for the "Hear In The Now Frontier" and "Q2K" albums. Did it ever
feel like you were betrayed by the same people who hailed you as innovators
when you released albums like "Operation: Mindcrime" and "Empire"?
- I wasn't really aware of
the criticism and I don't really pay any attention to other people's opinions.
I think it is better to do the things you do and be happy with whatever
you do and not be too worried what other people think. In the end it doesn't
really matter what anybody thinks.
I remember when you released
the "Operation: Mindcrime" and "Empire" albums how special they felt. Is
it possible to create the same feeling again when Queensrÿche release
a new album?
- It's a different time space
for me than it is for you and for you than it is for my sister. Everybody
has different ways of processing their feelings. "Operation: Mindcrime",
we liked the record when we made just as we liked "Q2K" when we made it.
The band was very into it, happy with it, pleased with it and ready to
move on to the next project. That's the kind of way we work. How other
people view what you do is completely separate
from your own view. ".Mindcrime"
wasn't immediately a popular record. In fact it's still not considered
a popular record if you look at just the sales. It sold a couple of million
records world-wide but that's nothing if you compare to Michael Jackson's
"Thriller", which is a very popular record. "Operation: Mindcrime" did
not sell right away. It didn't take off and started selling any considerable
records till it was out at least a year and it was due to MTV in America
playing the record. Still it's not the kind of record you're gonna put
on and listen to in your car. It's an intense-listen-to-by-yourself record.
It's not a social activity sort of record so therefor it doesn't appeal
to a huge segment of the population. My point is that no, you can never
re-create somebody else's feelings and I wouldn't want to. I'm not even
at ".:Mindcrime" anymore. I'm past that now. It's a place I was but over
the years I've moved into other ways of thinking and different interests.
Other things interest me now.
You can never go back. It's what it is. It's a great record for its time.
When you release an album
is it even possible to comprehend the way people will intrepid what you've
done?
- Everybody listens to it differently,
with different ears. The process of what their own filters pick up is different
from your own. For example, you're a man who grew up in a completely different
environment than myself, different country, different culture. You speak
a different language. You have a whole different set of filters in your
personality than I do, and mine are different from my own brothers and
sisters who grew up in the same family. It's all very diverse and there's
no way to process all that information in a way that would be consistent
to each individual.
When you had a major hit
with "Silent Lucidity" what were your initial thoughts on that?
- It wasn't like it happened
immediately, it was a slow process. There was not a lot of thought that
went into it. No one ever came to me from the record company saying that
the single is a top ten hit in every single country in the world. I found
out a few years later by talking to journalists that it had done really
well in a number of places. I never had a felling of it being successful.
When you found out that "Silent
Lucidity" had been a hit all over the world did it change the way you looked
at your own music?
- No, not really. I think the
way that media jumps on certain things and makes it very popular, or pushes
it down peoples throats is a very interesting topic. The topic of the following
record "The Promised Land" is all about that. The whole "Empire" situation
was a really interesting time for me in that there was so much work going
on with the band, we were touring constantly, and there were these television
shows that they wanted
us to do. There was so much
media focus on the band that is was incredibly uncomfortable to live any
sort of normal life style. I need to have some sort of normality in my
life in order to write and function as a person, so I really pushed the
band to drop out of everything for a couple of years and just sort of take
a break after "Empire". I'm really glad we did because now we're able to
live and exist and not be in a fish bowl constantly. I prefer life like
that rather than have a constant media focus with people camping on my
doorstep and that kinda thing.
Sometime I get the feeling
that bands today are so aware of the fact that they're just going to be
here for a short while of time that they try to get on everything that
they're offered just so that they have their 15 minutes of fame. You're
not doing that. Instead you opt for the opposite.
- Our 15 minutes of fame lasted
long enough, for me at least. I can't speak for the rest of the band. I'm
glad that it's past.
- The pop mentality has been
propagated quite heavily around the world. Look at what sells the most
today. It's what I would like to call one-dimensional, most of it. That's
what the majority of the populous wants. They want to have a certain type
of music and that's what they get.
Queensrÿche had a stable
line-up for a very long time. Did you ever re-evaluate the reason for keep
doing it after Chris DeGarmo left?
- I was fairly devastated by
him leaving cos we were very close, we worked together consistently every
day, we talked together every day, about the band, about the record we
were working on, what we were going to do next. When he decided to leave
I took it as sort of a personal attack. That he didn't want to work with
me again. I was very upset by it and it took me a while to recover from
the shock of him leaving us because he just sprung it on us. I had all
kinds of thoughts about what the future of Queensryche would be like. Luckily
my wife sort of talked some sense into me, telling me I had to pull myself
out of it and get back on the horse again and keep riding, keep working.
I'm thankful to her for standing by my side through a really rough time
and helping me get over the hump.
With Chris leaving you were
forced to look for a new guitar player. Did you experience any kind of
obstacles in getting the go to just start looking for a replacement?
- We needed somebody who would
be a strong writer and somebody who would be able to play well. Luckily
Kelly (Gray) just kind of stepped in. He was already involved with us because
Chris and I had already contacted him to work on the next Queensryche record
as a co-producer and engineer. So he was already involved with us on a
daily basis. Luckily he could step in and he kind of took over. He had
some songs and some ideas. He and I had been in a band together years ago
and had written a number of songs together so we had some sort of working
understanding. He was in the right place at the right time. He's a strong
writer and he kind of fitted right in with the group.
You've always been seen as
the thinking man's metal band. How do you feel being viewed as an intellectual
band?
- I guess it's better than
being called a stupid band. It's human nature to put things in boxes and
categorise it. I used to get very offended when people categorised the
kind of music I was doing but over the years I've realised it's just human
nature and there's no way to fight it. Audiences and journalists always
put you in little boxes from day one when they listen to the music. To
describe what you're hearing automatically puts you in a position to categorise
and put things in little boxes. There's no way round it. I just try side-step
all that by not listening to anybody else's opinion on what it is I'm doing.
I like what I do. I just do what I do without questioning what it is I'm
doing. Music is all about self-expression. It's not a sporting event. It's
not measured by how many songs are on the record. How good it is, is all
relative and subjective. It's all about self-expression.
Being seen the way you are,
do you think that had something to do with some of the negative reactions
you received for "Here In The Now Frontier" and "Q2K"?
- What you're dealing with
is preconceptions. People having an idea or expectation on what something
is going to be and then it's not at all what they dreamed up. You set yourself
up for disappointments whenever you have preconceptions, whether it be
music or a relationship. It's much better and easier on the individual
if they have an open mind and accept what comes.
When you receive a new album
by a band you like you tend to want it to be a continuation of where they
left of on the previous one.
- But why? What makes you think
that those people are even in the same realm as you are. Do you even understand
the last record the way they meant it to be? There's no guarantee. It's
just what it is. It's a whole completely different set of parameters to
deal with each time somebody makes a record. It's where they are at that
point in time. How they are feeling, what's important to them at different
points.
But there will always be
this discrepancy between what the artist wants to say with his art and
the way the consumer interprets it.
- That's what makes life beautiful.
That it's not so figured out, not so easily followed. It's all random and
chaotic and beautiful. The label thinks differently. They work from a different
angle. Their point of view is to maximise sales and make sales whenever
possible. They're always looking for ways to do that whenever possible.
With Sanctuary you seem to
have a label that is just as much into the music as they are into selling
units but how does it feel when you realise that the label are more into
selling units than really caring for the music?
- I never really get that comfortable
that they are coming from the same planet that I am. I tend to sort of
keep them on an arm's length. I'm glad that they are enthusiastic about
working with the band but I haven't seen any issues yet where they have
stepped in and said that we can't do this or that. I don't expect them
to do that. They seem to understand the line there, that's a line you don't
really cross. That's all I ask from them that they have some interest in
what we're doing and that they let us do what we do and we'll let them
do
what they do.
Have you experienced times
when the label has said that you had to compromise your artistic integrity?
- They always say that. On
our first record "The Warning" they came out to the studio and listened
to tracks and took it away from us saying that we had gone over budget,
they assigned a different guy to mix the record so that we can watch it.
They took it out of our hands and they had this guy mix it, who had no
clue what was going on with the record or what the bands intent was. They
didn't take any input from the band at all.
- We're not unique to the record
industry. Everybody goes through it. The conception is that the label is
paying for it so they should get their input to the way they think it should
be done. The other thing is that I'm paying for it in the end. It's my
money, it's my vision and I'm creating a thing and I'll make what I want.
It's a constant battle all the time. With all this new technology at hand
do you think we'll see a time when bands won't need second or third hand
parties to do it?
- I think that time is now.
The Internet offers the artist the possibility of selling the music to
the people. The problem is, and some don't conceive it as a problem, is
that he record industry is investing in the Internet and kind of trying
to control it. Pretty soon they'll just be obsolete, who needs the middle
man when you can sell directly to the public, when you don't have to go
through a record store or a label. The thing is that what the record labels
has that makes them so valuable is that they have capital in order to advertise
and give publicity to a certain record. Without the public knowing you
have anything out there that's interesting you're not going to sell any
records. That's what the record label has, the money to put behind a band.
It takes millions and millions of investment dollars to promote an artist
and make them into a mega-star or a platinum selling artist. It's a lot
of money that has to be put into it. It's all in advertising.
On a more happier note. When
can we expect a new Queensryche album?
- I don't know. We'll start
working on it in January 2002 so I would say probably in the fall. |